My first two
Saturday Spotlight posts were about vegetables that I was harvesting at the time I wrote the posts. This time around my post is about a vegetable that is long past producing, it's actually time for Northern Hemisphere gardeners to think about sowing the seeds now. I want to get the word out about this fantastic, delicious, but little known and hard to find bean. I knew when my husband asked me if I was planning on growing Gigante beans again this year that I have a winning vegetable.
Gigantes, aka Gigandes, Yigandes, Yiyantes and even Macedonian Elephant beans for the extra large selections, are runner beans -
Phaseolus coccineus - the same bean family as Scarlet Runner Beans. They do best where it doesn't get too hot so they are quite happy in my cool coastal climate. Unlike Scarlet Runners they have pure white flowers and huge white seeds.
In the kitchen they are traditionally prepared in a tomato sauce and served up as a meze. This is how I first tasted them at Evvia, a very good Greek restaurant in Palo Alto, California. That's how I typically prepare them myself but I've also baked them with swiss chard in tomato sauce which turned out delicious. What I love most about this bean is the luscious creamy texture. Another plus in my opinion is that they hold their shape.
This bean came to me by chance, I hadn't been seeking it out, but a reader of my blog requested some caper seeds from me and sent a variety of seeds in return, including the Gigante beans (thanks Robert!). It took me 2 years to get around to growing them, for a variety of reasons including battles with rats, gophers, and moles, and a need to reconstruct, or rather construct some proper garden beds. These beans were some of the first vegetables to go into the new raised beds that I had built early last year.
Here's the result - 7.3 pounds of dried beans. Those are quart canning jars which will give you an idea of how large the dried beans are. Imagine how large they swell up to be when you rehydrate them!
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Greek Gigante Beans |
Now I'm going to bore you all with the story of their time in my garden. This is actually one of my primary reasons for writing this blog, to be able to go back and see what my garden was doing in the past, it's my garden journal.
I sowed the beans in paper pots on April 19 last year and planted them out into the garden not long after they germinated. The beans are so big that they nearly pushed themselves out of the little paper pots when they rehydrated. And then they quickly started to outgrow their little pots when they germinated so I had to set them out ASAP. I used two trellises, each one 3 feet wide by 5 feet high. I had sown 18 seeds, all of which germinated, and set them out along both sides of the trellis, each plant ended up about 1 foot apart. I knew that these plants would get to be big and I didn't want to crowd them.
At barely more than 1 month after sowing the seeds the vines were already starting to climb the trellises.
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May 21, 2012 |
Only 11 days later they are already filling out, sending out side shoots, some of the plants sending up extra shoots from their crowns, and climbing higher.
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June 1, 2012 |
Another 10 days and they are already blooming.
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June 11 |
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June 11 |
Barely 2 weeks later and they've topped the trellises and are in full bloom.
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June 24 |
A little more than 3 weeks later the vines are draping down the front of the trellis. They could have easily climbed another 3 feet higher. The first pods to set are sizing up.
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July 17 |
Only a few flowers on each raceme set a pod of beans. Most of the pods had 2 beans, some 3, and just a very few had 4.
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July 17 |
A month later and the trellis looks like a hedge. The plants are full and lush and green, but the first pods are starting to dry on the vines. I harvested the first dry pods on August 20th.
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August 15 |
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August 15 |
And then one month later, with the vines full of maturing and drying bean pods the plants are starting to die back.
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September 19 |
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September 17 |
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October 2 |
I didn't photograph the garden in October, but the bean plants were in transition between the photo above and the one below. By early November I had harvested all but a very few late drying beans. The vines were steadily dropping their leaves and dying back.
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November 7 |
By late November I had cleared out most of the bed and planted my garlic. The vines haven't completely died back because we hadn't had any frosty nights yet.
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November 26 |
Let's jump forward about 2 1/2 months. After a few freezing nights the vines had completely died, well, almost completely. Runner beans have very fleshy roots and in mild climates like where I garden they often times don't die, especially if the vines are not cut back. I believe, but don't take my word for this, that as the vines die back that they send their energy down to the roots which helps the roots to endure the cold wet winter. When I got around to cleaning up this bed a couple of weeks ago I found that most of the vines had died down to just above the crowns of the plants, most of them had about an inch or so of fleshy stem left above the ground and all but one of them had big fleshy roots. I cut each vine down to just a couple inches above the soil line.
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February 16, 2013 |
So here's a couple of the plants yesterday, most of them are starting to send up new shoots from the roots. The first to sprout about 2 weeks ago is already sending a runner towards the trellis.
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March 29, 2013 |
A couple more are looking more like this or just barely starting to poke a tiny green tip out of the soil.
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March 29, 2013 |
And a couple are looking less happy, fleshy roots but no shoots, but I'll leave them be and see what happens. Most of the plants are starting to pop out new shoots, so I'm really hopeful for another good and perhaps early harvest of Gigante beans.
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March 29, 2013 |
As I mentioned earlier, seeds for this variety of bean are really difficult to find. The
Mother Earth News seed and plant finder turns up not one source. A google search turns up one seed purveyor that is selling a lima bean, and lots of links to people searching for seeds. So where I wondered did Robert find his seeds? From a package of imported beans for cooking! And so far as I can tell that is still the only "seed" source.
So if you love big (huge) creamy easy to cook white beans and you live in a climate favorable to growing runner beans (
Phaseolus coccineus), I urge you to go find a packet of imported Greek Gigante beans. Cook up a bunch and save a few to sow in the garden, I don't think you will be disappointed.
Now be sure to head on over to
Surburban Tomato to check out Liz's Saturday spotlight about Summer Dance cucumbers and find links to other spotlight posts by other garden bloggers.
They sound and look great. We have a really big population of Greek descent in Melbourne so I reckon I should be able to find a source of seed. If not I'll get ones for cooking as you suggest.
ReplyDeleteWow, I will look out for those beans here in Australia!
ReplyDeleteI could find the seeds in three minutes flat. I live in a Greek (and Italian) section of town. At the Greek grocery they sell them in huge bags. They aren't technically seeds. They are meant for eating, but I'm sure I could get them to germinate easily. I still haven't tried them though. Some day I might try. But I like regular beans more than runner beans as dried beans. Is the texture and taste of the Giganite about the same as the typical runner?
ReplyDeleteI really can't say if the texture and taste are like typical runner beans, I've only ever grown or generally eaten common beans.
DeleteWow, amazing beans, wonder they would come back every year, runner beans grows well for me here, but I've never eaten them before.
ReplyDeleteI loved the drama of your Spotlight, those things really grow fast! Have you tried eating them fresh, or only dried?
ReplyDeleteI've only tried them dried. This year I want to try some as fresh shelling beans.
DeleteFascinating bean! I've been harvesting a crop of gigante limas this month. The beans and plants are huge and look very similar to your gigante runners but the lima flowers are small and lavender in color. Baking them with swiss chard in tomato sauce sounds really good!
ReplyDeleteNice, we have a similar variety in Poland. It's called 'JaÅ›' (meaning 'little John, or Johnny'. This variety has very big seeds, too!
ReplyDeleteThanks for the great introduction to gigante beans, they're gorgeous and must be terrific to cook with! Will now be on the look-out for them...
ReplyDeleteI was just winnowing down my cookbook library, and found reference in Elizabeth Berry's Great Bean Book to another name for your gigante — Hija beans; Purcell Mountain also has them listed under "Hija".
DeleteWhat an awesome bean, would be a great one for kids to plant as they are so fast growing.
ReplyDeleteLove it! I bet these beans are fantastic. They would probably not freeze here ,either. Hmmm.... Me thinks me be on the look out!
ReplyDeleteYou know, I always dig up the roots, but maybe I should let them be and see about getting a double growing. I have the room. . . What a nice looking bean.
ReplyDeleteI followed this article in 2015, bought some beans on line from Greece and planted early spring. First year, modest harvest, then sure enough they resprouted here in Virginia. Unfortunately, in 2016 plants didn't set any beans until now (Sept). Wondering how your second year went.
ReplyDeleteThe second year was a good one, the plants resprouted and covered their trellises and produced a nice crop of beans. I'm not sure why your plants didn't set beans until now other than perhaps your weather has been too hot. Runner bean flowers don't pollinate when temperatures are too high.
DeleteYou can find the seeds in the Real seed cataluoge .This will be our first year trying them on the coast of Maine.
ReplyDeleteI'm not sure how you ordered seeds from them to be delivered in the US. Their website says they only deliver to the UK, Ireland, France, and Spain. So far as I know there still isn't a US based seed source.
DeleteGigantes/Gigandes. are amazing beans! ( yigandes (Greek γίγαντες πλακί). My favourite way to cook them is Gigandes Plaki in tomatoes. I also have grown the beans I bought for cooking.
ReplyDeleteFYI, plaki (πλακί) is a cooking style, not part of the name of the bean. It's a popular way of cooking gigantes beans so a google for gigantes will often come up with gigantes plaki. Fish is also often made plaki - in the oven, cooked with tomatoes, and in a shallow pan. Plaki literally means flat rock.
DeleteI grew some that were imported from Greece through Amazon. The first year they bloomed but none set seed. This year, halfway through another frustrating season, a friend suggested fertilizing them because they're in containers. They responded by producing pods within 2 days. They are heavy feeders!
ReplyDeleteNow that it's winter and the old vines are overgrown and tangled, I appreciate your tip to cut them down to 2 or 3 inches. I didn't know what to do with them at the end of the season.
Purcell Mountain Farms sells 1 lb of giant white beans for $6.95
ReplyDeleteThey are the Greek gigantes.
The beans that Purcell Mountain is offering are a lima bean and Greek Gigante beans are a runner bean. Two entirely different beans.
DeleteDo you think that corona beans would be similar? I got some thinking they were gigante but I was mistaken. The beans themselves look identical to me. I’ll be trying to grow then in western Oregon.
ReplyDeleteThanks for a great blog!
Corona beans are similar but still not quite as large as the Gigantes. They are also very similar in terms of eating. I think the Gigantes are a tad bit creamier which is to my liking. What I don't know is if the Corona beans are also runner beans (Phaseolus coccineus).
DeleteI've just started to grow these, having fallen in love with them in Corfu and eaten them regularly for years. Like you, I searched the seed pages in vain and eventually did what you suggest and bought a half kilo bag for the kitchen and planted what I didn't eat. Germination now well under way, some bigger than others, but I'm looking forward to my first picking and eating!!
ReplyDeleteHello Gigantes bean growers.
DeleteI have had this bean dish in Greece, absolutely delicious.
As a Garden Grower and wishing to grow along with my other vegetables.
Question?
Were can one purchase the authentic Gigantes bean seeds.
Do as John did and buy some beans meant for eating and save some to grow. I don't know of any commercial seed source for seeds. My beans also originated from beans purchased for consumption.
DeleteHi, do you have to dry the beans before cooking or can they be eaten fresh? Just harvested mine, Many thanks
DeleteJo, I haven't tried cooking them fresh, but I'm sure you can shell the mature green seeds and cook them, they will cook much more quickly than dried beans.
DeleteI am going to grow gigantes beans. Can I cook the fresh beans rather than drying them. Would I still need to soak them?
ReplyDeleteI've not cooked them fresh myself, but if you harvest the mature beans before the pods dry out then the beans won't need to be soaked and they should cook very quickly.
DeleteAfter discovering these beans in a recipe (smitten kitchen's pizza beans!) we decided to try to grow them from the bulk bin. So far so good, but we're ready to build trellises and wondering how tall to make them? Planning to lean them against each other in an inverted V. It sounds like you think 8' might be good? We have 19 starts from the 20 beans we tried to germinate. Fingers crossed for a good harvest!
ReplyDeleteOur trellises for Gigantes are 8 ft high. The plants still top and flop over the trellises, at about 12 feet.
DeleteGigantes are sold in the UK by "real seeds"
ReplyDeleteI enjoyed this plant when I was young. Seeds were given to my father by his pilot friend. He planted it in our fence. He used to cook it for us.. Different dishes the Filipino way of cooking.... I just wish i had the seeds and plant them again in memory of my dad. Sad to think i cannot find it here in the Philippines
ReplyDeleteJust bought organic Gigante beans on Amazon from Olive Nation . As I live in a very hot climate I guess Ill have to wait til next year and start them earlier. Were already in triple digits.
ReplyDeleteThanks for posting this. I'm inspired to grow some this year in the mountains of Virginia, where it doesn't get too hot.
ReplyDeleteDid you dry the beans after shelling or were they dry enough in the pods to shell and store?
I let the pods dry on the vine and then shelled the dried beans once I was sure the pods and beans inside were completely dry.
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ReplyDeleteHow interesting! (I was actually on here to see if you hydrated the beans before planting.) I fell in love with these beans at a Greek restaurant in Canada, and finally found them via Amazon, imported to the US and Canada by a company called "Fantis Foods". FYI If you search up "Gigante" beans on amazon it conflates them with "large beans/butter beans", by a US firm branded "Camellia"; they are also good but not our Gigantes!
ReplyDeleteI’m in USA, upstate NY, Zone 5a/6b. I’ve grown Gigandes for many years, but my vines never have time to dry back like yours. Instead, when the first frost comes, I have many immature beans, a few pounds of mature dried pods, and a big bowl of fresh beans which we eat or blanch and freeze. It is now September 5 and about weeks to first frost. There are many beautiful flowers on my vines, but I am wondering if I should trim them and nip growing tips to encourage the immature beans to ripen. Hate to, never have, but wondering if it will increase my yield?
ReplyDeleteI purchased some "gigantes beans seeds" last year and was a little disappointed when my 20 beans arrived as half of them looked cracked and damaged, but fear not, they all germinated and grew just fine even in a cold wet Scottish climate. I am currently harvestig them and leaving them open to fully dry out and saving the bigger ones for next year ...I grew them in large pots up a frame about 8ft high ...they grew to about 10 or 12 ft and just draped down.
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